Monday, September 11, 2006

What Was Today Again?

The only real remaining taboo in American culture these days in criticizing anything having to do with 9/11. If you don’t believe me, ask Bill Maher or Ann Coulter (both of whom I am a big fan of). But I am going to go ahead and do it today, as I have been subjected to nothing but tear jerking remembrances all day on both TV and radio and think somebody needs to say something at least a little different. So here’s my deal: A lot of media outlets like to say that 9/11 filled us all with rage or shook every single American or made us all cry or some vaulting hyperbole like that. Well, not everyone. Don’t get me wrong, I was certainly sympathetic to all the victims and their families and see it as a horrible, horrible disaster. But no more so than I would be for anyone who lost a loved one unexpectedly. I feel the same emotions about 9/11 that I did about Hurricane Katirna. Sympathetic detachment.

Not that I am heartless, mind you. But think about how you watched the coverage of Katirna. You were saddened and maybe even a little disturbed and wanted to do something. Maybe you sent some money to the Red Cross, or sent some food or gave blood. But after doing your little part, you went on with your life without giving much thought to the event in your day to day life. At least I’m guessing that’s what you did. Same with me and 9/11. Since nobody I know was directly affected, I just kind of said “I feel really bad for those people” and proceeded with my plans to go to the gym. Now, remember, I was still in the Marines at that time and felt that agreeing to put my life on the line in defense of this country was doing my part. And I think most of you would agree.

People ask me where I was when I heard about 9/11 and I honestly don’t remember. I recall looking at the TV screen and saying “Wow, that sucks. Hey, when’s abs class?” I don’t know if this is because I wasn’t surprised that something like that could happen or that I’d been brought up on excessive violence on TV and was desensitized or maybe I was just a self-absorbed 22-year-old and really didn’t much care since it wasn’t happening in Miami. And since I knew exactly one person in New York at the time and no one in DC, I really just kind of felt sorry for all those involved and then went on with my business. Just like most Americans do when they see anything tragic on TV. I didn’t really feel any different that day than I had on Monday, and I don’t think that makes me a bad person.

I think had more Americans taken that sympathetic but detached approach, we would not be in the various messes we are in today. The world is afraid of us now because we felt like we had to find terrorists in every nook and cranny of the world. Hey, wake up America, terrorists are the cockroaches of the world. Try as you might to eliminate them, there will always be thousands of them hiding in places that you can never reach. We may catch Bin Laden, but at this point it would be a symbolic gesture at best. Al Qaeda, from what I understand, is pretty much a franchised operation now anyway. Had people not been so wrapped up in rage and emotion, there would have been no public support for the Iraqi war. We probably would have looked a little closer at the Patriot act which, while not as invasive as many liberals would have you believe, is wholly unnecessary anyway. At least it is if you aren’t afraid of terrorists.

And why, exactly, did families of 9/11 victims rate so much money for the loss of their loved ones? Those deaths were tragic, sure, but why is a firefighter killed at the WTC worth more than one killed in a tenement in Brooklyn? Or, even worse, why is a stockbroker worth more than a Marine killed in Iraq? Again, 9/11 hysteria. Aside from the cops and firefighters, those families did not deserve any more money than they would have been entitled to had their loved one died electrocuting himself doing home improvement. Since when is method of death entitlement to exorbitant compensation?

Personally, I see terrorism the same way I see getting hit by lighting: There are certain things you can do to protect yourself but if you are in the wrong place at the wrong time you’re pretty much fucked. So stop worrying about it. You know who I blame for 9/11? The $7-an-hour dipshits at security who let a bunch or shady guys through with box cutters. Nobody wants to think that stopping 9/11 was that simple, but it was. We don’t need to invade other countries; we don’t need to listen in on the phone conversations of any guy wearing a turban. We just need to be a little more diligent ourselves and we can go back to the way things were. Because I liked that world a hell of a lot better than the paranoid, anything-to-prevent-another-9/11 world we live in now. If terrorists want to hit us again, they will. And we will never eliminate them from the world, no matter how many countries we invade. Am I alone in saying that I was not all that affected by the events of 5 years ago? I have yet to meet someone else who openly says they weren’t that shaken up, so maybe I am a bad person. Again, 9/11 was certainly a great tragedy, and my deepest sympathy goes out to anyone affected. But I wasn’t, so my emotions pretty much stop there.

69 Comments:

At 5:55 PM, Anonymous Feuer the Destroyer said...

Your first thoughts weren't something along the lines of, "Oh crap, the chances I get sent off to fight a war in the desert just went way up!"?

 
At 6:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't think you're a bad person for reacting this way, but you might be a bad person for liking Ann Coulter.

 
At 6:15 PM, Blogger Rachel said...

WD ~ Bill Maher I can understand, but Ann Coulter? She is on par with Rush Limbaugh, Jerry Fallwell or David Duke to me. A crazy bitch who needs to pull her head out of her ass.
9/11 sucked. Lots of people are still grieving and I empathize with them. I don't discount your view because you don't feel about it the way that others do.
There are some parts of me that want to wallow in it but the majority of my head and heart want to remember, learn and move on with life. Enough is enough.

 
At 6:46 PM, Blogger imaginaryconversations said...

I wasn't affected either, but then again, I'm not even American and I don't know anyone who has been affected.

"I think had more Americans taken that sympathetic but detached approach"
They didn't because after 9/11 they don't feel so immune and powerful anymore. September 11th was a bigger dose of reality than your average Joe can handle.

Ann Coulter? I'm disappointed.

 
At 6:58 PM, Blogger T. said...

I can take Ann Coulter much better than Bill Maher. I can see liking her, but Maher. Yech. To each his own.

 
At 7:07 PM, Anonymous The Diabolical said...

I couldn't agree more w/ everything you said, WD.

Look, it was horrible, and of course I feel bad for all the people who died. But it affected my life nil. I certainly didn't feel more patriotic or like "my world had changed." No, no it didn't. I still go to work everyday, play basketball on Sat. morning and go out drinking all the other times. Screw you for telling me how I should feel...

And, to keep up w/ the overall theme of this blog, God help the New Yorker who tries to throw 9/11 for sympathy within earshot of me. If I don't feel like they're 100% genuine, the guns come out. Another reason to hate those bastards...

Keep up the good work, man.

 
At 9:35 PM, Anonymous nevadasmith said...

As a NYorker who was there my first reaction is to think you're an asshole and just part of the rest of the US who hates NY but secretly wishes they could be from NY-but know they could never cut it. But then I take a breath and realize you have a right to feel the way you want-you're not an asshole (at least not for that-Ann Coulter however...)and of course it probably hasn't affected you directly. Your analogy with Katrina was right on. I too watched and thought what a bad break-it sucks-but is it time to go out yet? The difference being that Katrina being a natural disaster was somewhat unpreventable. 911 was preventable-and has wrought so much shit in its wake including giving that asshole who calls himself the President so much more power-who has squandered it on creating more terrorists....well see--i guess it has affected me. And certainly as a person who watched the towers being built-worked there-hung out and smoked pot at its base while in high school-picked up women at the Windows of the World-it did play a part in my life. That said I am also sick of the 911 retrospectives-speeches-videos-stories etc. Out of all of them-your post was the one which made me think the most and actually made me respond. So thanks-and sorry this was a bit of a ramble.

 
At 9:41 PM, Anonymous nicole said...

It greatly effected my life then and I still feel the effects of it to this day.

But am I afraid of terrorists or do I live in constant fear? Hell no. Never have.

The politicos that walk on and off their podiums, waxing rhapsodic about "what this country has lost"? They're the ones that are mostly to blame for the last five years of paranoia and misplaced aggression.

But downplaying the sense of sadness and loss that people feel when they remember what happened that day is misguided, too.

ps -- Ann Coulter? Are you for SERIOUS??

 
At 9:52 PM, Anonymous Feuer the Destroyer said...

I know I've already dropped my 2 cents, but I just have to chime in regarding a prevailing sentiment... Ann Coulter? Really? Bill Maher may be a smug a-hole, but I think Coulter's gone from radical love-to-hate-her to completely insane. Maybe you could expound on that in a future post, or at Barracuda.

 
At 10:07 PM, Blogger Monica said...

Wow, I could not agree more about this. Having lived in Europe for a long time, and these types of attacks are an every day things... and people learn to accept it, live with it and move one...I never recalled the US making a big deal for those lives that are lost in those attacks. And like you said... being in the wrong place at the wrong time... it sucks the big one, but terrorism is never going to go away [One of many necessary evils in the world]... Sort of like hurricanes, we know they are there and we know that it just luck of the draw... (and being a Floridian, the most you can do is be as prepare as you can and just ride it out and then pick up the pieces and move on.), Unfortunately, we are not immortal and the world is full of crazies, (including mother nature.).

What is sad is that this government has taken this tragic event and plays it for what is worth to justify their means, and that is the biggest injustice of all.

Thanks for putting into words what most people really feel about 9/11.

 
At 10:25 PM, Blogger Yvette said...

At first, I was surprised at the pervasive apathy in Miami about 9/11 (could be Florida...I'm not sure), but then I remembered how far removed everyone here is from, well, everything. It's similar to the relative disinterest the rest of the world has with the issues of Latin America. In short, nobody gives a rat's ass...unless you live in Miami, in which case, the sky is always falling.

But being brutally insensitive isn't actually appropriate, either (I’m lookin’ at you, Diabolical). Hundreds of thousands of people have been directly and peripherally affected by 9/11. Either someone knows someone who has died, or is sick, or is at war in the Middle East, or still has nightmares, or who lost their job, or who had to move, or who spent an hour watching bodies and body parts fall out of the sky, or got stuck on a bridge for 23 hours while the world ended. Masturbatory politicking aside, if that’s not cause for dropping the flag to half-mast one day per year, then I don’t know what is.

Sorry, Dade, I don't know why I keep hijacking your blog. I must try to stop.

 
At 10:26 PM, Blogger T. said...

I just have some food for thought. People claim that it's silly to be paranoid about terrorism because the chances of it are so remote. Isn't it possible that the whole reason terrorism is so remote is precisely because of paranoia? I doubt the lack of subsequent terror attacks post 9/11 is due to restraint and moderation on the part of the terrorists. If people weren't paranoid about terrorism and let our guard down, I'm pretty sure it would occur a lot more often and the chances of being a terror victim wouldn't be so remote anymore.

 
At 11:07 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Monica said...

"...In Europe...these type of attacks happen every day..."

Really? I know London and Madrid happened...but they happen every day...something like 911...over 3,000 people dead in one shot...that happens every day in Europe? Damn I knew the media was dropping the ball I didn't realize it was that bad. And terrorism is a "...necessary evil.."-wow is that what living in Europe does to a person? Don't mean to pick but I hope you were just writing fast and not really thinking.

 
At 11:41 PM, Anonymous The Diabolical said...

yvette, I certainly don't wish to discount the pain and sufffering of the families and friends of those affected. My beef is w/ the media and politicians who want to tell ME how I should feel, OR who want to exploit it for whatever reason; be it personal or professional.

I'm over it, been over it. If that makes me a bad person, I'm sorry. But please, allow me to be over it...

God Bless the dead, but damn, let ME live...

 
At 8:39 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another idiotic post by Mr. Miami. 9/11 had an affect on everyone's life in one way or another. The stock market plunged, businesses closed and the lives of thousands of people were lost. How you could not feel any emotion over this is beyond me. When's ABS class? Are you fucking kidding me. You are a disgrace to American and it's armed forces. Next time you want to post something, DON'T.

Now I know why you became a personal trainer; you are too stupid to do anything else.

 
At 10:08 AM, Blogger angel, jr. said...

Everyone is entitled to their opinions and reactions. It's just yours. You aren't a jerk by any means. And it's exactly this type of writing that keeps us coming back--I'm always curious about what you'll write next.

 
At 10:22 AM, Anonymous Joe said...

I think we have talked about this already. The fact you wear a shirt that says "I 'plane' NY" is enough proof. I think you are heartless in regards to 9/11, and thats my opinion of the situation. Katrina, I could really care less about that so we probably see a bit more eye to eye.

Anne Coulter eh? Never would have thought ... well maybe a little.

 
At 10:32 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

actually I think this attitude is pretty typical, starting at about a 150 or so mile radius outside of the Boston/NYC/DC metro areas. I was in NYC that day, I live in the area of suburban NJ with the highest concentrated rate of victims, and I lost a few personal friends - guys in their late 20's - who were trapped in the North Tower - if they didn't jump 100 stories, then they were basically melted alive.

So yeah - when I hear glib comments about 9/11 from people in Pittsburgh or San Diego, my first impulse is to shatter their fucking jaws. But I understand, its not them, its my issue, some sort of unresolved PTSD shit.

I wonder if you saw any combat. If you did maybe you would understand what 9/11 means to people who were there. I know a lot of Marines who, upon coming home from Iraq, saw (and did) some some sick shit, feel intense anger and resentment towards the rest of the country, because they just don't "get it"

And re: why, exactly, did families of 9/11 victims rate so much money for the loss of their loved ones - first, I recommend you educate yourself about acuarial tables and how they work. Then do some research about wrongful death liability. Do you really want to know, or are you just putting that out there in the interest of presenting some sort of cliched contrarianism?

 
At 10:33 AM, Anonymous J said...

Best post yet maybe (esp as I had this same conversation yesterday). I was on-campus last night and accidently walked in on a giant momorial complete with slide-show and Enya soundtrack.

And I felt nothing. I thought about why that was, and I came to nearly the same conclusion as you. I have been desensitized. Its been 5 years of using those images as political ammunition and I'm sick of it. Its come to the point where I'm not even pissed at the terrorists anymore; I'm more upset at our reaction to it. Fuck, I have to listen to God Bless America and cheesy patriotic music during sporting events now and pretend I'm touched when honestly, I freakin' hate it.

Also, NYPD & FDNY. Great organizations that did a great job that day...but enough with the damn hats. Why is the OKC Fire Dept not celebrated or remembered?? Or is it b/c we are embarassed that a white American dude did it...

ps Ann Coulter!?

 
At 11:02 AM, Blogger Tara said...

"Sympathetic detachment" is a good word for it. I was stunned on 9/11, I remember where I was and what I was doing, but didn't cry on that day. When the realization set it, that's when I started feeling it, and even now when there are anniversaries of the event, I get choked up over some things, especially when I see the flag at half-staff.

However, I do feel sympathetic detachment over the news, anymore, and also over what happened with Katrina. I felt bad about all that, but then I wanted to move on.

 
At 11:10 AM, Blogger Virgle Kent said...

Wow,

I know what your talking about. I just want to give you props on having balls big enough to say it. Good job man, good job.

holla

 
At 11:30 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

All of you people who call yourselves Americans yet feel nothing for people that died in a extreme act of terrorism need to leave the country. Go to fucking Cuba or Libya and see how life is there. You people who feel nothing are all self absorbed breast feeding babies with the emotional maturity of child in preschool. White Dade doesn't research anything before he writes it; that's why his posts are so lame. Mr. Ivy League UM couldn't read an acturial table. I bet he couldn't even read a newspaper. Oh wait, I forgot, it takes a MIT grad to train old people. Give me a fucking break already White Dade. Is your life that sad that you have to resort to making racist and downright ignorant remarks on a fucking message board? You need a good ass kicking and as I said earlier my folks live in Miami so anytime you are feeling froggy just leap.

Fucking pussy. You never saw any real action. The most action you saw is Drill Instructor Dick pounding your fat mother. There, I said it, a mother joke.

Lastly, fuck you White Dade you fucking communist pig. Get the fuck out of the country.

 
At 11:38 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

And by the way let's not forget all the men and wome who died in past wars also.

But I guess most people forget that Hitler came very close to taking over the world.

As I stated earlier, bunch of self absorbed breast feeding babies.

 
At 12:01 PM, Anonymous Playtah said...

White Dade, don't worry, you're not heartless. I don't think it's wrong for you to feel that way, but in the same way, I will never ever apologize for feeling bad for the families who lost loved ones. (And just a side note since someone had mentioned it--the 9/11 families didn't get money simply because they lost a loved one, they got money so that they wouldn't sue the airlines and businesses. By giving out millions of dollars, an even bigger lawsuit was avoided. That's not to say I agree with them getting all that money, I just wanted to clear up the reasoning for it. It wasn't pity, it was just plain ole lawyer-ing.)
I do have to agree with you on several points, however...if I see one more friggin slide show about 9/11, I'm gonna start stabbing people.
I also wonder why we're not having a day of remembrance for all the innocent Iraqi's WE'VE killed for no reason. Sometimes I forget who the terrorists are. Us, or them?
And really, Ann Coulter? She's the lovechild of Death and Hades. Her very breath wilts flowers and scares children. If she got hit by a truck, I'd laugh. Then I'd back the truck up and roll over her again, very slowly.

 
At 12:10 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ann Coulter is an expert at promoting herself; people don't buy her book they buy her image.

And thank trial lawyers for messing up this country. These greedy pigs make a living off of the system. I was just sued my two people who I scraped in a car accident. Two teenagers who suffered so greatly that they wanted $75K each. First of all these punk kids should have been in school. Second of all, their illegal immigrant parents should not be here and lastly, they each got a whopping $2,000 after we settled. That is the most money those highschool dropouts will see. Shit, I paid $2,000 to watch White Dade's sister get raped by a chinchila.

My point is that the families got a lot of money but the greedy trial lawyers also made out.

 
At 1:53 PM, Blogger White Dade said...

Feuer - No. But it did occur to me pretty quickly.

Anon - Okay, I am goign to repsond to the Ann Coulter thing here. I like her, tohugh I do not agree with everything she says (see my post on abortion). She is strong, opinoinated, and doesn;t backdown, and is pretty entertiaing in her voicing of her opinions. And I do agree with some of what she says, especially about the 9/11 stuff. But I am not in lock step with her views in any way.

Rachel - Yes. enough is enough.

Inaginary - Yeah, the internaiotnal community had a reactin more similar to mine.

T - I like Maher too, mostly becasue he is the only other person I know of who will rip on children and people's attitudes towrds children as openly as me.

Diabolical - Thank you. Why I'm glad NYC was not awarded Olympics or a Super Bowl as sympathy.

Nevadasmith - First off, your name is interesting as I have a friend named smith who just moved to Nevada, but whatever. I agree, if I were a enw Yorker/washintonian I would be vastly affected. but I tinhk I saw this as more of a regional tragedy than a national one.

Nicole - You were in NY then and DC now, right? Makes perfect sense.

Monica - No, thank you for agreeing. But terrorism is not a neccessary Evil as there is NO upside to it. War is a neccesary evil, as are taxes and death. But terror? no, it really serves no neccessary purpose.

Yvette - My point is all those people didn't HAVE to be affected. Like had we not declared war, or had we not all paniced and refused to fly, a lot of the residual casualties could have been avoided.

T - I never buy that "We havent had an attack since" argument and here's why: When was the last domestic terror attack in the US beofre 9/11? OKC in 1995, and that was by an American, so it was really more like the 1992 (or 3) WTC bombing. That's 8 or 9 years free from internaitonal terrorists in that hedonistic, niave "pre-9/11" world everyone likes to talk about. Five years without a terro attack? we've done that before. If anytihng, our reaction has probably INCREASED the likelihood dince so many more people hate us now.

Anon2 - I agree with Monica but you are right. Perhaps she misspoke, I will give her the benefit of the doubt.

Diabolical - That last line pretty much sums up my attitude. Thank you.

Anon3 - Again, my point is had we taken a step back and looked at the situation, it didn't HAVE to affect everybody. had we gone on with our lives as normal, I doubt a lot of those residual events you talk about would have happened.

Angel - Thanks. Glad I can keep you entertained.

Joe - No. It's just that Joe Lambert doesn't care about black people.

Anon4 - First off, no I never saw any combat and that was just dumb luck. I was in the corps for three years after 9/11 and for some reason never went. But I get wha'ts going on over there very well as I have a LOT of friends who went and they all told me the same thing "You were smart to get out when your contract was up. Soon as mine is up, I'm out too." But I never criticize the military and what they are doing, and I also understand why we need to stay there for quite some time. Secondly, if you were there of course your reaction should be life-altering. But, agian, if you are in Pittsburgh or San Diego, why do you have to change you life too? my problem is with the NY/DC-based media telling us all we should be shaken and outraged. We weren't there, so maybe it is you who don't understand where WE are coming from.

J - Thank you, I had no idea we saw eye to eye on this, but it is true we have all gotten desensitized. And if you can find an OKC fire Dept hat, I will wear it weith pride.

Tara - I tinhk, tohugh, in general you are a more sensative person than I. Just a hunch.

VK - well, thank you sir. especially considering that you are in DC, that was a pleasantly surprising comment.

Anon - Actually, I have said many times to many people that American may not be perfect, but we still do it better than anyone else and living here is the equivalent of winning the genetic Pick 3. And did you serve? Did you see action? If the answer is yes, hey, rip me all you like, I respect that. If not, then shut up, because you have ZERO idea what it means to BE a US Marine whether you saw combat or not. Any any Marine, combat vet or otherwise, will back me up 100%. Quesiotning my patriotism is just downright offensive.

Playah - thank you for explaining that sompensation issue. I suppose when looked at that way it makes some sense.

Anon - you overpaid for that.

 
At 2:09 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are downright offensive White Dade. Your attack on Jenn Sterger and your shitty views on America offend me.

And no I did not serve but in reality neither did you. You sat around on Uncle Sam's dime looking for a handout. You are a new and improved kind of stupid and the fact that the US government wasted $8,000 on your ass is sad.

 
At 2:18 PM, Anonymous T. said...

WD, check out this site:
http://thereligionofpeace.com

And check these links detailing attacks in particular:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Pages/AmericanAttacks.htm

The 1st six months of 2006 alone:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/attacks-2006.htm

The scorecard of how many people we've apprehended and captured:
http://www.angelfire.com/ultra/terroristscorecard/index.html

As you can see, even though we've missed Bin Ladin, we've been apprehending and capturing many terrorists. Also, radical muslims are blowing up people around the world almost EVERY SINGLE DAY, as you can see from the links. Like I said, if we weren't so paranoid, they'd be bombing us just as much, any lack of bombing here in the States is not due to restraint on their part. They're out there bombing people every day. Also, keep in mind how much bombing they're doing in their own backyard in Iraq. Without that war, they'd have a lot more time and resources to devote to attacking us here.

Also, if you read the history of the conflicts, the reason why America wasn't attacked that much before 9/11 is because first they were preoccupied fighting the Soviet Union. After that the Taliban began rising to power. Then came the anti-US bombings at overseas embassies and the World Trade Center. And they've been building steam ever since. But previously we weren't their primary focus the way we are now.

 
At 2:27 PM, Blogger White Dade said...

Anon - Stop. You are only embarassing yourself at this point.

T - While I welcome your input and I fulyl understand that terrorist do a lot of shit around the world for variosu reasons, that site is not exacltly the most objective resource I have ever seen. The accounts of attacks may be accurate, but any site that asks the quesiton "Who are MUslims and why do they want to kill me?" should be taken with a grain of salt. Also, attacks in Iraq are more a part of the war, don't you think? I guess that is another topic for another time.

 
At 2:35 PM, Blogger emily said...

Dade, I don't agree with some stuff you've said, but it's so entertaining to see you write something that guaranteed will piss people off. Do you wake up on some days and think to yourself, "Self, THIS is a great day to piss people off!"
(in reference to: sex with underage girls, abortion, 9/11, etc.)

Keeps it interesting, at least!

 
At 2:44 PM, Anonymous T/ said...

Honestly, I really don't care if its objective. No news source is, no matter how it pretends. All I care about is if its accurate, which it is. But you're right, it is a topic for another time.

 
At 2:49 PM, Anonymous Playtah said...

WD-You've mentioned you were a Marine many times, and I guess I just never got around to saying it, but...thank you.

 
At 3:05 PM, Anonymous Florida Hater said...

WD - You've mentioned you live in Florida and for that I just want to say, you're a douchebag.

 
At 3:12 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

White Dade,

My offer to meet you in Miami still stands. I can't waste anymore time with your pathetic ass.

You know my e-mail address.

Go kill yourself!

 
At 3:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

next time you come to NYC come to Brooklyn, we'll go to some Irish pubs where fireman drink and you can tell them face to face how you resent all the attention given to 9/11. FYI, they won't care - or be at all impressed - that you were a reservist for 6 years.

 
At 4:14 PM, Blogger White Dade said...

Anon2 - Are you an NYC fireman? If so, I commend you for the job you do. that being said, 9/11 justwan't that big a deal to me since I didn't live there, but that doesn't mean you or your fallen comrades don't deserve credit for everytihng you do. If you're not, shut the fuck up.

 
At 4:44 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

nobody in new york over the course of the past week has made more than a passing mention about 9/11 to me. it's not us that's forcing it down everyone's throats. News shows and other outlets looking to capitalize on the heartstrings of middle america make those memorial shows. It's not people in New York trying to make you feel like you should have strong feelings one way or the other. We just get on with our lives.

 
At 5:47 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't waste time with this asshole. He is a redneck, racist anti-American communist who deserves a severe ass kicking. This schmuck shamelessly promoted himself by attacking Jenn Sterger and then kissing her ass afterwards.

People like WD are ignorant assholes who will get what they deserve. Karma is a bitch.

 
At 5:55 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't waste time with this asshole. He is a redneck, racist anti-American communist who deserves a severe ass kicking. This schmuck shamelessly promoted himself by attacking Jenn Sterger and then kissing her ass afterwards.

People like WD are ignorant assholes who will get what they deserve. Karma is a bitch.

 
At 6:15 PM, Blogger Rachel said...

WD~ I think that Anon might just have the hots for you but can't admit it just yet.
Anon~ Got any nekkid pix you can post so we can see if you are up to par for WD? Or better yet, how about coming out of the closet all together.
You are such a coward.

 
At 8:03 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rachel,

Go straddle a knife. I bet you are a fat bitch with 3 kids from 3 different men.

And if you can possible explain why I am a coward I would like to hear it.

If I were you, I would jump of the nearest bridge and hope I hit cement. Now finish your McGriddle you fat pig and shut up.

 
At 8:54 AM, Anonymous Playtah said...

Anonymous,
For the life of me, I can't understand how you can insult people as you do. I don't know if you've had a rough life, and you feel you have to be defensive or aggressive, or what. But the way you respond to people is very harsh. I don't know you personally. I don't know if you are a good or bad person. I'm not making judgements on you as a person. But to say all those harsh things to my best friend leaves me pissed and wondering if you really realize the affect words can have on people. Do you really want the mother of a beautiful little boy to jump to her death off a bridge? Do you really want a woman to put a sharp knife in her vagina so you can enjoy her pain for saying something that angers you? You seem to have a deep loyalty to our country (based on some of you comments), but is that what America is about--wishing death and pain on those who disagree or insult us?

 
At 10:51 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Playtah,

I only wish death and pain on stupid people. Rachel is a stupid person thus I wish pain and death on her. She started this little game first by calling me a coward. If she is not prepared for my response then she should have not attacked me first. As for you, I don't really care what you think. If you want to support an ignorant and racist moron like White Dade be my guest.

Anon

 
At 11:14 AM, Anonymous Playtah said...

Anonymous,
Thank you for your response. Although many of your posts disgust me, I have tried not to judge you from a few random comments. You may very well be a decent person who is just having a bad day. I wish you would extend that same courtesy to others.

 
At 12:49 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I respect those who deserve it. White Dade does not reserve any respect.

Why do my posts disgust you?

 
At 1:14 PM, Anonymous Playtah said...

Anonymous,
I just get frustrated because you make some really good points on the topic, but they get lost in the jumble of insults. I don't want to miss the chance to really consider your point of view--because it's obvious that you've put some thought into these things. But it's hard to appreciate them when I'm steaming about a harshly-worded put-down.

 
At 1:55 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please point out a harshly worded put down. They can't be any worse then White Dade's daily racist remarks.

And once again, Rachel started it so I finished it. If I go out on the street and pick a fight with someone, then get my ass kicked, I can't cry about it. I knew what I was doing so I have to take responsibilty for my actions.

 
At 2:05 PM, Anonymous Comrade Billy Bob said...

Anon,
You may be angry, but you sure are stupid (and judgmental).

WD a communist? It seems that his opinion here is quite opposite to the collective--rather he cares only about himself here. Seems like a capitalist to me!

WD a redneck? The dude is Jewish. I've been a few places, and certainly have yet to meet a redneck who enjoys Matza ball soup.

WD ignorant? On the contrary, he seems to be pretty well informed on this issue--he just doesn't personally care. That may be apathetic, but certainly not ignorant. Ironically, the only ignorant person is you, for not knowing or caring about the true definition of the word ignorant.

If, as you claim, Karma is indeed a bitch, it seems that you will soon be judged harshly while straddling a knife.

 
At 2:11 PM, Anonymous Playtah said...

"Harsh" is a subjective term, so what seems harsh to me may not seem harsh to others, but some of the comments that got me were:

"You are a disgrace to American and it's armed forces...Now I know why you became a personal trainer; you are too stupid to do anything else."

"Fucking pussy. You never saw any real action. The most action you saw is Drill Instructor Dick pounding your fat mother. There, I said it, a mother joke."

You have every right to say what you feel, but for me, it just kind of took away from the points you were making.

 
At 2:25 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Comrade Billy Bob,

Go kill yourself. The worms need a new source of food. So because one is Jewish, one can't be a redneck? Who the fuck made you God?

Fucking asshole. Get a job.

 
At 2:35 PM, Anonymous Brett said...

I think the infamous anon is getting off to all this commentary. He just wants attention. So don't give the baby his bottle.

 
At 2:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Also, PLAYTAH, I just checked out your profile. Forget what I said, I can't respect Rachel because any woman that has less clothes then I do has some serious fashion issues. I would be nice to you if you were good looking but I call them like I see them so f off.

 
At 2:39 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks Brett. Way to use "baby" after I called people "breast feeding babies" before your short but stupid comment. Can't think of anything original?

 
At 2:46 PM, Anonymous comrade billy bob goldstein said...

I do have a job! I am currently getting paid to document the existence of the elusive Communist Redneck Jew. So far he's yet to show his face...

 
At 2:57 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Not funny. Very poor attempt at humor. I got a bigger laugh watching your mother deepthroat a mentally challenged midget. Now that was funny.

 
At 3:11 PM, Anonymous Playtah said...

Wow. You sure got me. Do you write your own material? Because that's so fresh.

If it makes you feel better, you can pretend I'm crying my eyes out because I care what you say.

 
At 3:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well Playtah if I were a female, I would care what most men thought about my looks (unless you are gay). By the way, Mr. Ed called and he wants his teeth back. Truthfully, I have seen better faces on a large mouth bass.

P.S.

You may want to get some Proactive too.

Love,

ANON

 
At 3:49 PM, Blogger Rachel said...

Wow... I don't read for a day and look what I miss. An ANONYMOUS commenter insulting me for calling him a coward.

Ohhh poor baby... are you upset that I didn't respond to your hate and your pathetically asinine comments other than to say that I thought you were a coward for posting anonymously?
I find it extremly funny that you were more offended that I called you a coward than the fact that I insinuated that you are gay.
So, I will say it again.

YOU ARE A COWARD!!!

You want people to take you seriously? Post your username, blog, or real name. Until you are able to state your views and identify yourself.. STFU!!!
I wonder if your mom knows what kind of sewage spews from your mouth.
Oh and you are just jealous that you can't even come close to finding someone as beautiful as Playtah. She is gorgeous inside and out.
BTW- If you had read the post about my closet you would know that I had just cleaned it out and donated things to charity. What you saw in the photos doesn't even come close to how many clothes I have. I had 2 weeks of laundry to do at that point so go suck some lemons and improve your demeanor.

Playtah ~ Thanks for standing up for me chica! You ROCK! I don't think that I could be as cordial as you were.

 
At 3:51 PM, Blogger Rachel said...

Anon ~ Post a real photo of yourself with a link and let everyone else be the judge of who is better looking.
I bet Platah would win hands down every time.

 
At 4:03 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am a guy Rachel so why would people compare me to Playtah? So you have to defend your closet to me. That is sad. Still, I have ten times the clothes you have and I am a guy. If you think Playtah is beautiful, then I bet you are about as attractive as a chimp's asshole.

Playtah said you have a child. $100.00 says that you are not married and that the baby's daddy doesn't pay child support. You can send cash or a money order to me because you know I am right.

Your closet looks like my closet looked in 2nd grade. Upgrade.

 
At 4:12 PM, Blogger Rachel said...

Anon ~ You are still and apparently always will be a coward.
You can say anything you want to me, I don't care. You don't know me or anything about me.
If you have 10x's the amount of clothing than I do that just means that you are more gay than Lance Bass or more Metro than Ryan Seacrest. Take your pick Coward. (like how I capitalized it? That is how I will refer to you now. Proper name Coward)
If you have read anything on my blog, you would see that I am not married to my son's father. Takes a real brainiac to figure that out when you can read about it on the main page of my blog. But alas, you are wrong. I get child support. Sorry, I can't subsidize your welfare check this month.
So, kiss my apparently fat pig, McGriddle loving, white ass Coward.

 
At 4:30 PM, Blogger Ale8one said...

man, wish i had read this post at least by yesterday. i was beginning to put all this stuff behind me again.

well said, and i think you speak for more people than you know. we're not heartless, we just have to keep on going.

and we're tired of the patriotic, self-obsessed, emotional manipulators that try and tell us how to think.

 
At 4:38 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

LOL. I called it without reading your blog. I can tell by the way you write that you are nothing more then a white trash whore who would spread her legs for anything with a dick.

Great way to be responsible. Have a child without a solid family foundation in place.

I am done with you. Now go have another baby with a different guy so you really fit the white trash profule.

 
At 6:19 PM, Blogger Rachel said...

Awww Coward ~ Cant you come up with something more unique than a white trash whore?
So tired and uninspired.

You certainly enjoy spewing your vitriolic sewage at people. Are you sure you aren't Ann Coulter in disguise?

I can't express strongly enough how much of a coward that you are.

Someday you might get the balls to show people who you really are. I am sure we will forget you soon enough. You aren't worth the brain power to remember.

Coward

 
At 9:19 AM, Blogger Stephanie Green said...

I imagine it's nearly imopssible to have a gut-wrenching reaction to the trauma of 9/11 unless you witnessed it firsthand or lost people in the towers or the pentagon or on the planes. For new yorkers though, it was a major, major event, no matter your social class, vantage point or political affiliation.
http://dishalicious.blogspot.com/2006/09/remembering-sept-11.html

 
At 7:07 PM, Blogger Helen Sparkles said...

I felt the same way (& don't know who Ann Coulter is).

 
At 12:41 AM, Blogger Dayngr said...

"maybe I was just a self-absorbed 22-year-old and really didn’t much care since it wasn’t happening in Miami." So what has changed?

 
At 5:53 AM, Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rachel,

I win. We are all cowards since none of us use our real name. Now, as I said, go apply for some government aid. Your baby's daddy can't pay child support this month.

White Dade's Dad

 
At 10:45 AM, Anonymous jbintokyo said...

mANN Coulter? Really? I'm rolling my eyes.

 

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